# Difficulties in algebraic simplifications

I am a new user, and I am a bit puzzled while experimenting with Mathematica functions, their derivatives and derivatives of functions.

I have an expression such as:

x^(-4 - m[x])*(6*m[x] + x*(x^3*h1[x_]^4 + 6*x^3*h1[x_]^2*
Derivative[h1][x_] + 3*x^3*Derivative[h1][x_]^2 -
8*Derivative[m][x] + 6*x*Derivative[m][x] -
4*h1[x_]*(2*m[x] + 3*x*(-Derivative[m][x] +
x*Derivative[m][x]))))


and I try to simplify using:

/.   -((2*m[x])/x^3) + (3*Derivative[m][x])/x^2 -
(3*Derivative[m][x])/x -> Derivative[h1][x]


But it seems impossible to replace the algebraic terms with the function h1''[x].

Any suggestions? Thank you very much.

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• Try something like: Derivative[m][x] -> x * Derivative[h1][x] / 3 + ((2*m[x])/x^3) - (3*Derivative[m][x])/x^2. I think there's a duplicate somewhere on site about substituting algebraic expressions, if someone can find it. Nov 18 '15 at 11:29
• It is not quite clear, what do you want to achieve, but before all you should remove errors replacing numerous x_s in your expression by x s. Then a good idea might be to precisely explain, what term do you want to get rid off: there always exists a way for that. Nov 18 '15 at 13:52
• Sorry I tried to make no mistakes using cut and paste and it seems it did not work completely... so, again, suppose an expression: Nov 18 '15 at 14:17

expr = x^(-4 - m[x])*(6*m[x] +
x*(x^3*h1[x]^4 + 6*x^3*h1[x]^2*
Derivative[h1][x] +
3*x^3*Derivative[h1][x]^
2 - 8*Derivative[m][
x] + 6*x*Derivative[m][
x] - 4*h1[x_]*(2*m[x] +
3*x*(-Derivative[m][
x] + x*Derivative[m][
x]))));


Keeep the LHS of the replacement rule as simple as possible, e.g., m''[x] -> ...

expr2 = Simplify[expr /.
Solve[-((2*m[x])/x^3) +
(3*Derivative[m][x])/
x^2 - (3*Derivative[m][
x])/x == Derivative[
h1][x], Derivative[m][
x]][]]

(*  x^(-4 - m[x])*(x^4*h1[x]^4 +
2*m[x] + 6*x^4*h1[x]^2*
Derivative[h1][x] +
3*x^4*Derivative[h1][x]^2 -
2*x*Derivative[m][x] -
2*x^3*Derivative[h1][x] +
4*x^4*h1[x_]*Derivative[h1][
x])  *)

• It Works!.. Thank you very much to solve this question that was posted so unclear... What I have read in books and manuals is that simplification is not easy (or straightforward...) so there are several approaches when the direct "Simplify" does not work (this include "Expand", "Factor", rules with -assumptions- etc..) however I am not sure I have read about this workaround....That is to say, to use the -function- you want to collect and solve it in terms of one of its members, I guess it should be possible to use other -unknow-such as -m'[x]- and it will also work. Very nice workaround!! Nov 19 '15 at 9:07