I have a polynomial (functional) expression $E[F]$ in terms of a function $F$.

I want to take an $F$-cube truncation in the sense that I want to and make terms of the form $F[w]F[x]F[y]F[z]$ vanish for any value of the arguments $w,\ldots,z$ that are not real variables but complicated to describe and (thus not realistic to list).

For concreteness, take $F(x)=\sin(x)$; one could imagine $D$, the domain of $F$, has cardinality $1000$ (which is why I would not like to list $1000^4$ evaluated elements) and I'd like to neglect $\mathcal O (\sin^4)$-terms, in the sense described above. An example would be

Truncation of

$$\sin^2(v)\sin(w)\sin^2(x)\sin^2(w) \sin(y)+ \sin^2(x) \sin(y) \sin(w)+\sin(w)\sin(x)\sin(y)+ 2\sin(y) + 3 $$

to be for all $v,w,x,y,z$

$$ \sin(w)\sin(x)\sin(y)+2\sin(y) +3 $$


Sin[v]^2 Sin[w]Sin[x]^2 Sin[w] ^2 Sin[y] + Sin[x]^2 Sin[y] Sin[w]+Sin[w] Sin[x] Sin[y]+ 2Sin[y] + 3 

(*should yield ==>>  Sin[w] Sin[x] Sin[y]+ 2Sin[y] + 3*)

How to annihilate multiple products of the image of a custom function? So I start it making the truncation linear

VariableList={(*not easy to describe*)}
Truncation[x_Plus] := Truncation[#] & /@ x
Truncation[c_ x_] := c Truncation[x] /; And @@ FreeQ[c, VariableList])

where x_ would be a polynomial in $F[x_1] \cdots F[x_n]$. But

Count[expr_implying_F , F]

yields 0 since $F$ is a head.

Also the suggested Count[expr_, _F, All] does not work because of:

Count[F[y] F[x] F[z] F[w] , _F, All] (*yielding 4 as it should*)
Count[F[x] F[x] F[x] F[w] , _F, All] (*yielding 2, it should be 4*)
Count[F[x] F[x] F[x] F[x] , _F, All] (*yielding 1, it should be 4*)
  • This counting has been solved here for $F(x)=\sqrt x$, but the solution relies on properties of the square root.

  • The solution should not refer to properties of the function $F$, e.g. in the example, not to evoke trigonometric identities.

  • $\begingroup$ Since your immediate problem hinges on an issue with Counts, can you give a toy expression together with your desired output. Also, would Count[yourexpression, _F, All] do what you want? $\endgroup$
    – MarcoB
    Jun 8, 2020 at 13:56
  • $\begingroup$ Do you mean Mma examples additional to the mathematical ones? $\endgroup$
    – João
    Jun 8, 2020 at 14:35
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    $\begingroup$ Powers are automatically evaluated before Count is applied. Try Count[Hold[yourExpression], _F, All]. For instance Count[Hold[F[x] F[x]], _F, All] returns 2. It will still be difficult to avoid evaluation everywhere though. You may have to look into writing an auxiliary function with a Hold attribute, or use Inactive or Unevaluated through your code. $\endgroup$
    – MarcoB
    Jun 8, 2020 at 15:17
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    $\begingroup$ And yes, I do mean MMA ones rather than mathematical ones. Don't discourage possible helpers by forcing them to rewrite your expressions by hand! Provide copy-pastable code. As a small example, see if this helps towards your ultimate goal: Sin[v]^2 Sin[w] Sin[x]^2 + 3 /. Power[Sin[__], 2] -> 1 which returns 3 + Sin[w] by "eliminating" all squared Sin expressions. $\endgroup$
    – MarcoB
    Jun 8, 2020 at 15:18

1 Answer 1


Try this:

expr = Sin[v]^2 Sin[w] Sin[x]^2 Sin[w]^2 Sin[y] + 
  Sin[x]^2 Sin[y] Sin[w] + Sin[w] Sin[x] Sin[y] + 2 Sin[y] + 3;

We will exchange any Sin[something]->ϵ*Sin[someting] and then expand in series in terms of ϵ:

expr2=Series[expr /. Sin[x_] -> ϵ*Sin[x], {ϵ, 0,3}] // Normal

(* 3 + 2 ϵ Sin[y] + ϵ^3 Sin[w] Sin[x] Sin[y] *)

After that one only need to put ϵ=1. Finally

expr2 /. ϵ -> 1

(*  3 + 2 Sin[y] + Sin[w] Sin[x] Sin[y]  *)

Have fun++!

  • $\begingroup$ That's a very nice solution! $\endgroup$
    – João
    Jun 9, 2020 at 7:31

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