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Consider this integral: $$ \int_0^\pi d\theta \sin\theta\, {1 \over \gamma^q}\left((1-\gamma^2)^2\sqrt{1 \over 1-\left(1-(1-\gamma^2)^4\right)\cos^2\theta} - 1\right)^q $$ for $0\leq \gamma < 1$. The integrand is real, but the result of the integration is a complex number.

Here is the code:

q = 14;
A1 = Assuming[
   a \[Element] Reals && 0 <= a < 1 && b \[Element] Reals && 
    0 <= b < 1 && theta >= 0 && theta \[Element] Reals,
   Integrate[Sin[theta] (b Sqrt[1/(1 - a Cos[theta]^2)] - 1)^q, 
    theta]];
B1 = Assuming[
   a \[Element] Reals && 0 <= a < 1 && b \[Element] Reals && 
    0 <= b < 1, 
   Limit[A1, theta -> Pi, Direction -> "FromBelow"] - 
    Limit[A1, theta -> 0, Direction -> "FromAbove"]
   ];
C1 = 1/gamma^q B1 /. {a -> (1 - (1 - gamma^2)^4), 
    b -> (1 - gamma^2)^2};

Print["q = ", q, " --> C1/.gamma\[Rule] 0.1 = ", C1 /. gamma -> 0.1];
Print["q = ", q, " --> C1/.gamma\[Rule] 0.5 = ", C1 /. gamma -> 0.5];
Print["q = ", q, " --> C1/.gamma\[Rule] 0.9 = ", C1 /. gamma -> 0.9];

and the results are

q = 14 --> C1/.gamma-> 0.1 = 454.747 +0.355271 I
q = 14 --> C1/.gamma-> 0.5 = 0.101885 +7.27596*10^-12 I
q = 14 --> C1/.gamma-> 0.9 = -25.9344+4.85305*10^-16 I

As we see the results are complex numbers and especially for q=14, and gamma = 0.1 the imaginary part is not negligible. So, the question is when the integrand is real, why the result of the integration is complex and has an imaginary part?

Any idea what is the problem and how to fix it?

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Mathematica's antiderivative has poles and or not continuous, so FTOC can not be used. Either that (I have not figured which it is), or the anti-derivative is simply wrong.

But using Rubi, it produces anti-derivative which allows using FTOC on it and does not produce complex values. And now the result of integration is real.

<< Rubi`
q = 14;
Arubi = Int[Sin[theta] (b Sqrt[1/(1 - a Cos[theta]^2)] - 1)^q, theta];
B1 = Assuming[
  a \[Element] Reals && 0 <= a < 1 && b \[Element] Reals && 
   0 <= b < 1, 
  Limit[Arubi, theta -> Pi, Direction -> "FromBelow"] - 
   Limit[Arubi, theta -> 0, Direction -> "FromAbove"]];

C1 = 1/gamma^q B1 /. {a -> (1 - (1 - gamma^2)^4),  b -> (1 - gamma^2)^2}
Print["q = ", q, " --> C1/.gamma\[Rule] 0.1 = ", C1 /. gamma -> 0.1]
Print["q = ", q, " --> C1/.gamma\[Rule] 0.5 = ", C1 /. gamma -> 0.5]
Print["q = ", q, " --> C1/.gamma\[Rule] 0.9 = ", C1 /. gamma -> 0.9]

Mathematica graphics

For an example, for gamma -> 0.5, here is Rubi's anitderivative

  Arubi0 = Arubi /. {a -> (1 - (1 - gamma^2)^4), b -> (1 - gamma^2)^2};
  Plot[Arubi0 /. gamma -> 0.5, {theta, -4 Pi, 4 Pi}]

Mathematica graphics

how to fix it

I do not know now how to fix it in Mathematica if any. But you can try Rubi to integrate this.

Update to answer comment

Is there any way to test which one is correct?

One way is to check the derivative of the antiderivative gives back the integrand, or something free from the variable of inegration.

This below shows Mathematic's result does not do this. While Rubi's does.

To make it easier to do, I used this substitution {a -> (1 - (1 - gamma^2)^4), b -> (1 - gamma^2)^2} /. gamma -> 1/2 on both, otherwise, it will take very long time. This function below returns 1 if it verifies, else 0.

verifyAntiDerivative[anti_, integrand_, x_] := Module[{tmp},
  tmp = D[anti, x] - integrand;
  If[FreeQ[Simplify[tmp], x], Return[1, Module]];
  tmp = D[Simplify[anti], x] - integrand;
  If[FreeQ[Simplify[tmp], x], Return[1, Module]];
  tmp = Simplify[D[anti, x]] - integrand;
  If[FreeQ[Simplify[tmp], x], Return[1, Module]];
  0];

Now do the following

<< Rubi`
q = 14;
integrand = Sin[theta] (b Sqrt[1/(1 - a Cos[theta]^2)] - 1)^q;
anti = Int[integrand, theta];
anti0 = anti /. {a -> (1 - (1 - gamma^2)^4), b -> (1 - gamma^2)^2}/. gamma -> 1/2
integrand0 =integrand/.{a ->(1 - (1 -gamma^2)^4),b ->(1 - gamma^2)^2} /. gamma -> 1/2;
verifyAntiDerivative[anti0, integrand0, theta]

(*1*)

Now do the same for Mathematica

q = 14;
integrand = Sin[theta] (b Sqrt[1/(1 - a Cos[theta]^2)] - 1)^q;
anti = Integrate[integrand, theta];
anti0 = anti /. {a -> (1 - (1 - gamma^2)^4), b -> (1 - gamma^2)^2} /.gamma -> 1/2
integrand0=integrand/.{a -> (1 -(1 - gamma^2)^4),b -> (1 - gamma^2)^2}/. gamma -> 1/2;
verifyAntiDerivative[anti0, integrand0, theta]

  (* 0 *)
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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you very much. So, how can we know the result of the integration is correct. Mathematica gives one value and Rubi gives another. Is there any way to test which one is correct? $\endgroup$
    – Fluid
    Commented May 24, 2020 at 14:33
  • $\begingroup$ For example, In Mathematica NIntegrate[1/(1 - x^2), {x, 0, 2}, PrecisionGoal -> 50] gives 3.32189. However, in Rubi, Int[1/(1 - x^2), {x, 0, 2}] gives ArcTanh[2] = 0.549306 - 1.5708 I which is a complex number while the integrand is real. So, even though the antiderivative of 1/(1 - x^2) is ArcTanh[x], it has a diverging discountinuity in the domain [0,2]. $\endgroup$
    – Fluid
    Commented May 24, 2020 at 15:00
  • $\begingroup$ @Fluid fyi, added a quick check. $\endgroup$
    – Nasser
    Commented May 24, 2020 at 15:20
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you very much! $\endgroup$
    – Fluid
    Commented May 24, 2020 at 17:20

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