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FindRoot documentation reports that if the equation and the initial point are reals, the solutions are searched in the real domain. However, in the following case I get a complex solution

FindRoot[eq, {h, 1.7}]
   {h -> -0.990042 - 0.689686 I}

Same for

Assuming[Reals, FindRoot[eq, {h, 1.7}]]

Where eq is the following. What can I do to force Mathematica to return only real solutions?

eq = 0.2888960456513873` \[Sqrt](0.4149486782073932` + (0.5637605604986459` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + (0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) + 2.2076945564517114` h \[Sqrt](0.4149486782073932` + 
(0.5637605604986459` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + (0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) + 6.735521430523215` h^2 \[Sqrt](0.4149486782073932` + 
(0.5637605604986459` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + (0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) + 10.54153050379155` h^3 \[Sqrt](0.4149486782073932` + 
(0.5637605604986459` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + (0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) + 8.93280406600778` h^4 \[Sqrt](0.4149486782073932` + 
(0.5637605604986459` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + (0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) + 3.8752891330788843` h^5 \[Sqrt](0.4149486782073932` + 
(0.5637605604986459` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + (0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) + 0.666148416209407` h^6 \[Sqrt](0.4149486782073932` + 
(0.5637605604986459` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + (0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) + 0.4167441738314279` \[Sqrt](0.4756674436221575` + 
(0.9900423417575865` + 
        h)^2) \[Sqrt](1 - (0.4444444444444444` 
(-0.022551321792606827` + (0.5637605604986459` + 
             h)^2)^2)/(0.4149486782073932` + (0.5637605604986459` + 
           h)^2))
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    $\begingroup$ NSolve[ eq == 0, h, Reals] yields {} i.e. there are no real solutions. $\endgroup$
    – Artes
    Jan 23, 2013 at 11:27
  • $\begingroup$ Same if you Plot[Re[eq], {h, -1, 1}]. $\endgroup$ Jan 23, 2013 at 11:31
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you. Actually the equation I am using is much longer, it has reals solutions, which I obtained by picking up only the real solutions. To speed up my algorithm I wanted to force findroot itself to return only real solutions $\endgroup$ Jan 23, 2013 at 11:43
  • $\begingroup$ With the complete equation I am using, NSolve does not return $\endgroup$ Jan 23, 2013 at 11:45
  • $\begingroup$ @FabioDallaLibera You could restrict the region to find solutions, e.g. NSolve[ eq == 0&& -5 < h < 5, h, Reals]. $\endgroup$
    – Artes
    Jan 23, 2013 at 11:51

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It will be more convenient to define the function eq this way :

eq[h_] := the formula

Real solutions

For a general technique of using FindRoot the way you would like I recommend to read this post : First positive root. However in order to demonstrate how it works for real numbers we should have a different equation since this one has no real solutions :

NSolve[ eq[h] == 0, h, Reals]
{}

Sometimes it is reasonable to restrict the search for roots to a special region, e.g. if we add an inequality 0 < h < 3 then we don't have to specify the domain Reals because the system understands that h must be real :

NSolve[ eq[h] == 0 && 0 < h < 3, h ]

General remarks on using NSolve you could find here : Solve an equation in R+ since they are valid for Solve as well as for NSolve.

For the function f we can find a global minimum of the real part :

nmin = { h /. #[[2]], #[[1]]}& @ NMinimize[ Re @ eq[h], h]
{-1.83596, 0.100607}

For an idea what we can expect let's plot the real and imaginary parts of f :

Plot[{Re @ eq[h], Im @ eq[h]}, {h, -3, 2}, PlotStyle -> Thick, PlotRange -> {-1, 4}, 
      Epilog -> {Red, PointSize[0.015], Point[nmin]},
      PlotLegends -> {Placed["Expressions", {Left, Center}]}]

enter image description here

Even though eq has no real roots we can see that one can expect real solutions e.g. for eq[h] - 3/2 near h == -2 and h == 0, using FindRoot with appropriate starting points we find :

FindRoot[ eq[h] - 3/2, #]& /@ {{h, -2}, {h, 0}}
 {{h -> -2.15793}, {h -> 0.14209}}

For deeper understandig of the behavior of the eq function we should take a look at the complex plane.

Complex solutions

The complex roots can be rewritten as pairs of real numbers :

pts = {Re @ #, Im @ #}& /@ (h /. NSolve[ eq[h] == 0, h])
{{-1.86925, 0.135055}, {-1.86925, -0.135055}, {-1.08654, 0.84989},
 {-1.08654, -0.84989}, {-0.990042, 0.689686}, {-0.990042, -0.689686},
 {-0.0268207, 0.391104}, {-0.0268207, -0.391104}}

Let's visualize the function eq in the complex plane :

GraphicsRow[ 
    Table[ Show[ ContourPlot @@@ {
      { g[eq[x + I y]], {x, -2.5, 0.5}, {y, -1.5, 1.5},
        PlotLabel -> Style[ g[HoldForm @ eq[x + I y]], Blue, 25],
        ColorFunction -> "DeepSeaColors", Epilog -> { Darker @ Green, PointSize[0.03], 
                                                      Point[pts] } },
      { Re @ eq[x + I y] == 0, {x, -2.5, 0.5}, {y, -1.5, 1.5},
        ContourStyle -> {Red, Thick}},
      { Im @ eq[x + I y] == 0, {x, -2.5, 0.5}, {y, -1.5, 1.5}, PlotPoints -> 50, 
        MaxRecursion -> 3, ContourStyle -> {Cyan, Thick}}}],

             {g, {Re, Im}} ] ]

enter image description here

The green points denote the complex roots, you can see that there are no real roots. The red lines are solutions to Re[ eq[h] ] == 0 while the cyan lines denote solutions to Im[ eq[h] ] == 0. One can see a that there are some branch cuts on the plots, i.e. the definition of the function eq is reliable only if we use it in appropriate regions in the complex plane.

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    $\begingroup$ very nice plots! $\endgroup$
    – chris
    Jan 23, 2013 at 18:39
  • $\begingroup$ @chris Thanks. Sometimes plots are crucial to understand what lies beneath. $\endgroup$
    – Artes
    Jan 24, 2013 at 14:19

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