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I am trying to calculate the average distance of electron above the surface. However when I did the Integral, for the first couple of state(n from 1 to around 15) the results are pretty good. However, for higher value of n, it starts giving the very weird value. Some people told me that it is because of the method of integration and suggested that I should use other numerical method other than just use the default Integral of Mathematica. I would really appreciate it you you guys can help me with this problem.

$$\text{$\chi $n}(\text{n$\_$},\text{z$\_$})\text{:=}-\frac{(2 z) e^{-\frac{z}{a_0 n}} L_{n-1}^1\left(\frac{2 z}{a_0 n}\right)}{\sqrt{a_0 n^3} \left(a_0 n\right)}$$

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The issue is the lack of precision specified for a0 (Reference: precw). Change to the following:

a0 = 36/10*10^-10;

and the results seem appropriate.

xn[n_, z_] := -1/Sqrt[n^3 a0] (2 z)/(n a0) Exp[-z/(n a0)] LaguerreL[n - 1, 1, (2 z)/(n a0)]

data = N[Table[{n, Integrate[xn[n, z] z xn[n, z], {z, 0, Infinity}]/a0}, {n, 1, 30}]]

(Note: For some versions of Mathematica, including V10 Student Edition, the Integrate function needs to include PrincipalValue -> True for proper evaluation.

{{1., 1.5}, {2., 6.}, {3., 13.5}, {4., 24.}, {5., 37.5}, {6., 54.}, {7., 73.5}, {8., 96.}, {9., 121.5}, {10., 150.}, {11., 181.5}, {12., 216.}, {13., 253.5}, {14., 294.}, {15., 337.5}, {16., 384.}, {17., 433.5}, {18., 486.}, {19., 541.5}, {20., 600.}, {21., 661.5}, {22., 726.}, {23., 793.5}, {24., 864.}, {25., 937.5}, {26., 1014.}, {27., 1093.5}, {28., 1176.}, {29., 1261.5}, {30., 1350.}}

As an interesting aside this reduces to a fairly simple relationship:

$\chi n = (3/2) n^2$

nlm = NonlinearModelFit[data, a x ^2, {a}, x]
Plot[nlm[x], {x, 0, 30}, Epilog -> Point[data]]

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Another way to identify this relationship was suggested by Bob Hanlon:

FindSequenceFunction[data[[All, 2]] // Rationalize, n]
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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it. However, when I try the same thing, some of the result turn to be zero. Can you please explain a little bit more about the working precision. I look it up but it confuses me alot $\endgroup$ – Quang Phan Jul 17 '16 at 23:44
  • $\begingroup$ When I try your code, it happens like this: 1.` 1.5` 2.` 6.` 3.` 13.5` 4.` 24.` 5.` 37.5` 6.` 54.` 7.` 73.5` 8.` 0.` 9.` 0.` 10.` 0.` 11.` 0.` 12.` 0.` 13.` 0.` 14.` 0.` 15.` 0.` 16.` 0.` 17.` 0.` 18.` 0.` 19.` 739.850168393288` 20.` 0.` 21.` 891.9849790911463` 22.` 900.1037074992012` 23.` 1049.7176922474973` 24.` 664.0116898665082` 25.` 1116.1338233731344` 26.` 952.0162224510896` 27.` 1042.9886917686958` 28.` 1114.5273086839672` 29.` 1400.6626376639572` 30.` 1372.4169189319132` $\endgroup$ – Quang Phan Jul 17 '16 at 23:54
  • $\begingroup$ I use Version 10-Student Edition $\endgroup$ – Quang Phan Jul 17 '16 at 23:57
  • $\begingroup$ Hi, I did try it but it keeps giving me a bunch of zeros as mentioned above. $\endgroup$ – Quang Phan Jul 18 '16 at 0:22
  • $\begingroup$ It says something like this "Integral of E^(-6250000000 z/9) z^3 (301327047-732392128125000000 z+<<6>>+46938657760620117187500000000000000000000000000000000000000 z^6-582076609134674072265625000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 z^7)^2 does not converge on {0,[Infinity]}. >>" $\endgroup$ – Quang Phan Jul 18 '16 at 0:24

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