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My question is probably best illustrated with this small sample code:

Manipulate[
 Plot[{eqn1, eqn2, eqn1-eqn2}, {x,-5,5}],
 {{eqn1,r-x,"y1="}},{{eqn2,E^-x,"y2="}},
 {r,-2,2}
]

I would like to be able to have the user input two equations which including a variable r, and then use the slider to manipulate this variable. The issue is that Manipulate changes r within the input field, and then doesn't update the graphs.

Is there a way of allowing the user to input an equation which contains one of Manipulate's variables without having it change that variable within the input field?

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    $\begingroup$ I wonder, why did you gave the title "Prevent..." when you explicitly want to have interdependence? $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 11:59
  • $\begingroup$ @IstvánZachar Well, I guess it depends what you see as being interdependent. I want the variable r to be interdependent, but not the controls themselves, so that change one control won't affect the input field itself. So essentially, the variable r is dependent on all controls, but the controls shouldn't be interdependent of each other. $\endgroup$
    – JP-Ellis
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 15:19
  • $\begingroup$ So you only want to retain eqn1 as r - x in the InputField instead of e.g. 1-x (if r is 1)? If I'm correct, than indeed my first example is the way to do it. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 17:01
  • $\begingroup$ Yep, that's correct, and indeed your first answer achieved exactly what I was hoping. The rest of the answer is an interesting exploration of the way Manipulate behaves, but isn't strictly answering my question. $\endgroup$
    – JP-Ellis
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 23:19
  • $\begingroup$ Then I will split my answer and move the irrelevant parts to a new thread. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 28, 2012 at 9:05

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The symbol r that is controlled by the slider is automatically localized so manually entering an expression containing (global) r does not work.

How about a simple replacement of r -> rr where rr is the Manipulate-d variable?

The undocumented option Evaluated -> True is used to retain individual line styles.(1)(2)

Manipulate[
 Plot[{eqn1, eqn2, eqn1 - eqn2} /. r -> rr, {x, -5, 5}, Evaluated -> True],
 {{eqn1, r - x, "y1="}},
 {{eqn2, E^-x, "y2="}},
 {{rr, -2, "r"}, -2, 2}]

Edited

Moved off-topic discussion on variable decoupling to this new post.

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  • $\begingroup$ István, I edited your answer. I included an explanation of the need for the replacement rule as well as an option to preserve the unique line styling. I also found that the second form you showed did not work for me so I removed it; please add it back if you see fit. I hope this edit is not stepping on your toes; instead my intent is to enhance this answer rather than posting a competing one. $\endgroup$
    – Mr.Wizard
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 6:11
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks Mr.Wizard, no toestepping at all. I wanted to include some explanations but wasn't able to figure out, so I left it for a later rewriting. You were faster, as usually :) I'm still not sure I understand though: if r is local to the slider, how come it is updated in the InputField, and not in the body of the Manipulate? My second solution works consistently on my end (though I don't like it, would rather wrap the whole thing in DynamicModule)... are you using v6 or 7? What could cause this discrepancy of versions? $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 6:28
  • $\begingroup$ @Mr.Wizard, Nasser: Please check update and provide some insight if you could. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 12:00
  • $\begingroup$ @Nasser: you are right in that this example is not useful for the OP, but the underlying problem is that the initial value definition in a Manipulate is not enough to trigger body updates. My example is a remedy for that. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 12:28
  • $\begingroup$ It is also possible to force the re-evaluation of x in the minimal example by making it dynamic. So Manipulate[{Dynamic[x], r}, {{x, r}}, {r, 0, 1}] will see both values being changed. In the context of the initial question however, this is not that useful since the input field is also modified. $\endgroup$
    – JP-Ellis
    Commented Sep 27, 2012 at 15:33

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